February 3, 2016 in Hand Tools. vise workshop Press J to jump to the feed. A Youtuber I follow named Rex Krueger did a video about super-tuning a plane similar to this. Like matter and antimatter, math and economics, decent wages and work performed. Probably a good learning experience, and maybe even a good prototype for a real hand plane. Finally 2000 (9 micron about) at 6 Oclock position. Ill keep looking next to the Aldi chisels. wood mini planes freight harbor edited november tools equipment Commenting has been disabled. UNLIMITED Membership is like taking a master class in woodworking for less than $10 a month. Oh and looky there (subject (title) of this post) I quoted a wood worker on psychology. So, I left them. On the other hand, you could probably find junk beater planes for only a few bucks and harvest their blades. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google. The blade thickness is .078 - which is about the same as a standard Stanley #3 blade (usually .078 - .082). Anyway, the plane was indeed useless out of the box. If you can getting one used this way saves a TON. If you have a Harbor Freight nearby and go there on occasion, you might gamble $10 and see what you can make of one. Im asking because I have a #3 without a rear tote, and I wonder if it would fit, Very interesting Marty. Become an UNLIMITED member and get it all: searchable online archive of every issue, how-to videos, Complete Illustrated Guide to Woodworking digital series, print magazine, e-newsletter, and more. freight Then I tried it, first setting the iron with the sole down on flat MDF, and then with a light tap or so on the fastened down iron top. That said, if you have large hands, plan on dragging your knuckles on the adjustment knobs. They simply want to see if any customers will ask for a No. Thanks for mentioning Norbert. Thanks Tony. Using scary sharp sandpaper method, I reground the primary to 25 degrees. One of my favorite LNs is the Bronze Edge plane, but for some reason, that one doesn't sell for close to retail on EBay. 5 is there any point to going after this guy? If history is a good teacher, then you will get your money back, and you will have had fun for five years. Ive never seen the No. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I use this a lot because it seems like its always within arms reach. Is it OK to copy projects from the magazine? I'm retired. I bought one of these a while ago but just recently started fettling with it. Using the back-bevel setting on the Mk II, I first put a 13-degree back bevel using 1200, and then a 15-degree using 2000. He got it to work, but in the end he scrapped the adjusters and went old-school, tapping the iron with a mallet like you would in a wooden-bodied plane. The overall impression from those who tried it (myself included) was that they were pretty darn good for, at the time, $7. But that's a great idea, buy the plane for the iron. "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty. Here is what I did: 1. plane was junk out of the box: I surface ground the bottom, and then squared the sides to the sole. The #4 body is the positive electrode in my electrolysis setup..:>). Remove the stud adjustment shafts and knurled knobs. plane windsor lumberjocks woodworking handplane crisis identity another freight harbor sells called its I wish you could do that with Lee Valley tools. and couldn't find it. It might not help; it wouldnt hurt. You cannot paste images directly. And, out of curiousity, any idea why it's called a #33? I bought mine for about $7 or $8 (IIRC). Pretty much sums up any attempt to use CL to find decent tools in southerncalifornia (Thread jump:)Apologies OPCL is the blind pig. I was thinking of filing the key hole longer to lower it, but this would require some serious reshaping of the cap and mouth area to let shavings pass through. Out of the box the mouth sat in a deep hollow, now the sole is within a few tenths. for the same money you can get an old Stanley at a garage sale and with the same amount of work or less have a better feeling plane that will require less maintenance and last so much longer. Rabbeting a shelf; Strength vs. appearance, Editor's Letter: A new tool with every project. Or the guy making up names is too lazy to use another button? I was thinking (a dangerous thing) - taking a lousy plane and turning it into a user - is that a good thing? You overpaid. Possibly Ill try a higher angle maybe 62 or so. I had to clean paint off where the blade beds as well as burrs, now the blade beds flat. Some of you guys might appreciate this video where I inspect a $10 impulse purchase from Harbor Freight. I suppose I could add a quote from Chris Rock, and it would stack up with equal validity. As it is, it sounds good in use. I'm not sure that adding a comedian to your list of folks to quote supports your premise, but okay. And after a few passes - tearout removed. Im not particularly fond of the spokeshave style blade adjustments either and I was tempted to remove them, but there doesnt seem to be too much room between the tote and blade to get even a small plane hammer in there and I have more experience with spokeshaves than I do wooden planes. Everyone out here thinks their 20 year old Stanley #4 is a collectors item and price them accordingly. Cheaper than the $10 plane at HF!!!!! Got a and b as shown below. But if what Im doing requires me to adjust anything, I just go find another one. I have a Veritas Mk II honing guide which makes this easy. You are merely a caretaker of it for a while. As to the blade hardness and holding an edge - don't know. 4. Start your 14-day FREE trial - and get building! It'll be great for when I need to plane the edges of plywood, MDF, etc. diy bench planer freight harbor plane tools deals amazing You must be logged in to reply to this topic. 
Some just have got to pee on the electric fence for them selves. 4 "defender" so not one of the good old models and it still way out performed the harbor freight one. Best Stanley nr 4 are the pre-WW2 types. It was actually pretty good to start. Glad you enjoy the real deal. I saw Marty's video and thought it was great. It did not smooth worth a darn, which is its intended purpose. 320 grit and baby oil. I agree its not a #3, but his question was how big it was, and I do think its closest to a #3 size wise. Our biweekly podcast allows editors, authors, and special guests to answer your woodworking questions and connect with the online woodworking community. Check out Paul Sellers videos on YouTube. I'd love to see how it turns out. I bought the Stanley about 20 years ago and it pretty much kept me from hand tools. Get complete site access to video workshops, digital plans library, online archive, and more, plus the print magazine. You can do ALOT with this plane and it will be a life time tool. After getting it into shape, does it take and hold an edge? Throughout all of this there was absolutely no chatter, though it is a bit of a bear to push with the 60-degree cutting angle. I haven't thought of him since I retired. I picked up the Stanley no 4, not the least expensive but not the most expensive either, and while it needs tuning (I watched both Rex Kruger and Paul Sellers video's on this) it is a quality tool that I plan to keep around. Thanks for that. I use the small stamped plane blade as a letter opener. I bought one just for chits and giggles a few years ago, iron is not really very good, dulls easily and does not keep an edge. Original was as it came off the surface planar. Welcome! I did it back when I was younger and it taught me a lot. I suppose you could go even further (or is it farther)? Plus no third world slave labor! I have a spokeshave that works like that, and it's a pain to get the blade projection just right. I still have two or three of them in boxes in the shop, somewhere. Hopefully there is something like that in your area that you can get out and enjoy. Not that I would want to. There are too many people giving noobs the idea that a Veritas or Lie-Nielsen is a necessity. My wife and I estate sale for fun and now that our state has started to open back up a little I was able to pick up a No. Thanks Marty..Most guys here no allot about planes but I dont and liked the information .For $10 I may get one and If my tuneup goes bad than Im not out much.. Looks like a PITA to use with that "simplified" frog or lack thereof. Upload or insert images from URL. I can see it now -- Threads entitled "woodworking and existentialism" - St Thomas Acquinas and dovetailing - How do I know my tenon has a better fit, or can it ever be known? Grain popping nicely, no tearout, and burnished mirror smooth. Im going to try it next time where I might have used a scraper around a knot reversing grain whatever. Pass. The one-piece body/frog is obviously rigid. I don't believe people really "Own" an LN. It seems to take me about the same amount of time to sharpen as a Stanley blade. I inherited many tools from my grandfather along with picking up woodworking as a hobby. 2. The plane was awful out of the box, but after spending maybe 2 hours over a couple of days, it now takes whisper thin shavings. Probably also add a slight camber to the iron. If you buy the HF plane, and fettle it for a day and try to sell it on EBay, I doubt it would sell, and you would be out $10 and a days work. Oh you are talking to the master of the SBP. ooop ! He has some truly amusing views on economics. I appreciate your feedback. One third between a #3 and #4? No adjustment there. How thick is the blade? Save for quality, that kind of tool will leave you disappointed and frustrated. Also id consider looking at older union and craftsman planes also. You can obviously buy better irons but it'll cost you $30 - $50. Cry "Havoc," and let slip the dogs of bench. The advantage I see over searching CL or Ebay for old Stanleys, is that these planes are on the shelf at HF, anytime you want one. Good mind on that guy. Money into it: $8.00 plane, $30 blade 1-1/2 hours fixturing and surface grinding time for one of my machinists @$60/hr or $90, and about 3 hours of my time (no cost). As I have done many times. I don't pay a lot of attention to cowboys. No, I don't want to see it. The sole was so bad I never got it really flat. The lever cap also sits about 1/4 away from the edge of the blade. But in 30 minutes of work, this plane makes a great scrub plane. If you do make simething with one if the irons, please share. Bad things could happen if they ever came together. 16, to see if they can get a hand plane cheaper than the Harbor Freight 33. I used his vid to help me fix my plane up, which was similar. IMHO, the naysayers on this thread need to rethink. Went back to the last bevel setting for a few strokes to remove the burr. Ill see if it can help my grandfathers Stanley No.3. Logging and woodworking must be kept segregated. Cases in my state are spiking again so I'm reluctant to head out for non essential stuff but I'll definitely keep an eye out. 5 for 10 bucks plus the cost of sandpaper to get it back up and running. I also like how you adapted those pony clamps to your HF clamps, I used thin plywood and used double face tape whhich has worked so far. I purchased one of these as well. '. Let's assume a 25% profit margin (high enough to cover undeclared fixed costs), so the final price is $216.25. Mine is similar. The cap iron needed a bit of work, but not much to do it's job. If i were you id get a used Stanley no 5 (4 would be fine too but i think you can do more with a 5). The best use I could think of was the plywood as the OP said, or some of that ugly pallet wood my wife wants me to do something with. A questionable exercise from many perspectives. Setting aside the obvious, that those who inhabit any ivory tower can't possibly speak to the realities of business, what has either math or slave labor got to do with Harbor Freight? Plus tips, advice, and special offers from Fine Woodworking. 33 on sale, so maybe sometime, somewhere, someone might get a bargain. 
Your previous content has been restored. Can someone give me the Forum/URL where this was discussed last year? I too live in Southern California. I have one and use it a lot for misc stuff. So why not just buy ten of them, use them for five years and sell them on EBay. It's EBay for us. I also bought one on impulse., badly shaped the iron was. I mean logging. 
The screw-down iron clamp comes reasonably close to the iron edge apparently giving good support and also helping rigidity. But when I run into a small box top or box side with stubborn grain, or an edge giving me tearout with my 45 degree planes, it will come out. Had I saved and bought a proven second hand plane or a decent plane, like I recently did, I would have not shied away from hand tools for the past 20 years. Plane unchanged from prior example. After assembly, with a bit more tweaking, I can get .001 shavings from cherry (wood I mainly work with). Effective angle is now somewhere near 60-degrees. (I did sand its edge where it contacts the iron a bit). But just check EBay at any time and you will see how close LN planes and chisels sell to new retail.. BY THE WAY, there are a few exceptions to that. 1. I got one to help trim a sticky door. Marty Backe, Congrats on your find and thanks for your input! I would love to get a good plane thru an estate sale. Its a size that would be handy and comfortable to hold. I had one but it was too light to be a scrub plane. I think it wouldnt make a good smoother. If you want a scrub as discussed, you might need to move to the #4. I haven't seen folks try this with expensive infill planes so I don't know if they are "free". That is usually more efficient with a jack or fore plane.. Is this Mathieson or Noris smooth infill? I've bought 2 delta table saws, brand new mitre saw, 8" jointer and a bunch of others.Handtools are just a no go.. A pretty well-known bladesmiths even made a replacement blade for it. 3. plane looked like crap out of the box: ugly lacquer on tote and knob, stripped off and BLO with wax cured that. Why not start with some nice chunks of metal and wood, and make an infill plane? then. As Jammersix says, results are what counts. UNLIMITED membership - Get access to it all. Then you sell it to the next caretaker, and the process goes on for eternity. Next the iron. Roller arrow in up position. LV, >Try a screwball path once in a while..:>) <. Total then was $128.00 hard dollars. Any hour I can get out of the house and wife and to the shop is pure pleasure. Try a screwball path once in a while..:>), I just despise HF. Thanks for sharing this Marty, very interesting results! They are not really for removing mill marks. These days you're looking at a new stanley bailey series plane as a bare minimum if you want something that will do what you want it to do. I thought if the plane was junk, they were worth the $10 alone. Its great to have around! I looked in a couple places (SMC etc.) I don't use it and will probably give it away or sell it one of these days. And he used it often. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Norbert_Wiener. Even for a ham-fisted ham & egger like me, I would charge about $15/hr. We are not talking about brain surgery here. The set went out constantly. Editor's Letter: Technology and the future of woodworking. It is a "right of passage". 
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Have fun. I use it for rounding over corners, cleaning up tapers etc. We will adjust as you would an old-fashioned wooden plane with a mallet. CherryKnorPitchPocket is a kiln dried cherry table offcut that has been in the offcut bin a few months. This made me think I could just drop $10 on the plane, and harvest the iron.. Makes some of the LV and LN look cheap, eh? I've seen as high as $400 for a relatively late model miller falls smoother all beat to hell and rusted into oblivion. The mouth is already huge, so no work there. Enter now for your chance to win more than $2,000 worth of woodworking equipment from Woodpeckers. I lapped the sole a bit on 320 wet dry. 32, a No. and make your own chunks of metal but I am not interested in mining or smelting. It appears to be holding its depth just fine, and the blade has not yet doubled over..:>). THese things don't wear out. Yup - looks like its been removed At least I can't find it, no matter how I search.. I want to say "Will Rogers", but I'm not sure that's right. Quite a good quote in my view. Some of the metal (cap iron) was ugly chrome-I was going to remove the plating and polish, but I never got around to it. As mentioned recently, the plane body size is also about the same as a Stanley #3 - but the HF is definitely lighter. I have one, and it can do a pretty decent job, with a bit of setup. You could turn this plane into anything you wanted, including a boat anchor ;-). This thing is dogshit. But I thought that perhaps I might try setting it up as a very high angle smoother, for Type II shavings where the size of the mouth doesnt make much of a difference. The mouth was gigantic, and the frog is integral with the body. Exactly. I forget who came up with it here but I thank them for it. Now let's talk REAL CHEAP. The equivalent of one of those T-shirts with the tux printed on it showing up at the penthouse party. I did get a kick out of the comment about this being an excellent positive pole for an electrolysis setup. Just make sure they dont have corrugate bottoms and watch some videos from paul sellers. It just reminded me of that vid and I was not sure if you'd seen it. 
Then let us know..:>). - Logic and professional woodworkers. The sole was close to flat to start with, but it has some pretty deep grinding/sanding/machining grooves in it that still need lapping out, at least enough to get the front of the mouth smooth, but I decided it was good enough for now. We can watch and see how low a price point can go. For $10 it is at least as well made as a Groz or standard Anant. Not to be too hard on you, it looks like you got it to work pretty well from see the photos. I think this is because its so cheap, Im not obsessive about putting it away and I dont worry about knocking it off the bench! For reference my only other plane at the time were a stanley no. Every time i sharpen it, I set it up to take very thin shavings and than I leave it alone until I sharpen it again. Display as a link instead, How can I let it sharp af? Yes, I know you have it. Plane is a comfortable #3 size smoother, very similar in size and design to a Stanley design. If you're interested in old tools, it sucks to live here. You can see the original surface was uneven - there is still a low spot to the right. Marty you are out of control buddy !! This HF is much heavier and holdssettings better. Your endgrain is like your bellybutton. P.S Roc - you will be pleased to know that the HF #4 & small stamped plane set at $14.99 is a complete POS. Setting the blade is an exercise in frustration. Finally, the Maple surface itself - an area with surface planar tearout - MaplePlanerTearout. But the HF33 is leveling it out, and burnishing the newly planed surface very nicely. It ends up taking beautiful shavings. Maybe not saying much, but the tote and knob were nice. Start your 14-day FREE trial - and get building! That would take longer and require some more machinery (always a good thing), but you might end up being the next Holtey! Forums were playing with this plane a year ago and Hock was even going to make a small run of irons for them. Even a blind pig finds an acorn every now and then, especially if he is the first one under the tree.. I put a 1/16 shim between the blade and bed this closed the mouth up to a couple hairs smaller than 1/32. I'm like ROC, but was still interested in this plane. If I were 'watching my (Lincoln) hours' - I'd buy LV. I got one a while back and it was totally useless to me and the worst money I ever spent. I'd be interested in the URL where this plane was discussed last year. I have the Stanley Number 4 also and It is pretty much junk. Truly useless. Here are a few more.. Viewing 11 posts - 1 through 11 (of 11 total), Tuning and using a $10 Harbor Freight hand plane, This topic has 10 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated. You could turn this plane into anything you wanted, including a boat anchor ;-), 10$ impulse buy!! This was fun for me, and possibly productive. And do it free. In-depth articles, up-close photography, and detailed illustrations. Now the handle is on another plane and will never be used again. I would say to try ebay, but prices there aren't great anymore. I believe that most Lie Nielsen planes are FREE. I usually traverse with the scrub and then go with the grain with a #6 set as a fore.. I just jokingly said that maybe the manufacturer intended it to be a scrub plane, because of how badly shaped the iron was. I see a great shaving, so now the questions are will it hold a setting, and will it hold an edge? The thing that escapes the ivory tower (note that I haven't said that it escapes you) is that wages are relative. We have created these special content collections organized to give you a deep dive into a range of topics that matter. By I don't do it much anymore but I wouldn't have missed it for the world. Brendon, note the iron in this plane is more like a spokeshave iron than a typical plane iron. I keep seeing this plane pushed in public forums. Looks like I'll save a few more bucks and get a decent tool.
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