We had white subway in a brick pattern installed. He profusely apologized for what had been going on and told us none of this should have been happening.We are beyond happy and feel almost like we had an exorcism at our house lol! This customer chose to really offset some of the hardware, as a deliberate accent. In advance. He was just here today working on it. I really dont care about such things though . Due to that there has been a considerable hiatus in time and delay to the continuation of the reno, we were 'in limbo'. The kitchen triangle works for me and I don't want to walk all the way across the room to go the fridge. Individually handcrafted knobs and pulls in vibrant dichroic art glass. I've never even seen it here the way he wants it. It's not wrong. All our kitchens are the way You want it. You just guaranteed to have a bigger than usual gap there in the winter. Conveniences include a 60" Wolf range, a 36" Subzero refrigerator and freezer and two farmhouse sinks by Kallista. He said his way is the 'standard' way to do it and the way he 'always' does it. Best of luck in your new place. It looked horrible. Kitchen design with Uneek Glass Fusions custom cabinet hardware in mosaic glass. Drilling through the intersection of the rail and stile makes the joint look weak - visually, I think of pulling on the knob applying pressure to both pieces and gives the appearance of stressing the joint, even if well built. Couldn't even fit a stock pot under there, and it was a fire hazard! This reminds me of a house I saw recently. Designer Gwen Adair of Cabinet Supreme by Adair did a fabulous job at using grays to create a neutral backdrop to bring out the bright, vibrant colors that the homeowners love so much. If my memory serves me I'd say we probably tried contacting about 5 or 6 contractors total over the past couple of years give or take a couple. I prefer it that way as well. My question, have they done anything to protect your floors in the newly tiled bathroom? And now this family will enjoy this new space for many more generations to come in the future with the help of the team at Advance Design Studio. The kitchen also boasts two dishwashers (one in the island and one to the right of the sink cabinet under the window) and a coffee bar area with a built-in Miele. Now that they will be taking the time and redoing the backsplash over again, we now have a bit more time to decide where we want the knobs. I told him I prefer the knobs centered in/on the diagonal corner of each cabinet door. If you want to make placement simple, use finger pulls. The table won't be in that exact spot as the original image but I don't mind a center placement because the adjoining room is the living room. All of this depends on knob size and style , size of stile/rail etc. She hasn't psoted a photo of HER knob, nor HER cabinet. I'm glad I did. I think the hardware in itself is not a good look for that kitchentoo long, but the placement is sure askew. After a nights rest, he might be in a better mood to explain his objections and reasoning rationally in an adult manner. Classic gray and white cabinetry from Dura Supreme hits the mark creating a perfect balance between bright and subdued. First, your contractor has demonstrated unacceptable behavior and either you or your husband need to calmly explain that raising of his voice, throwing things, treating you or your belongings with anything less than respect is not acceptable and it will not happen again in your home. And I've also never ever seen any cabinet door broken or damaged because of our placing it that way. Callacatta Oro honed stone tops. Is there a right way & a wrong way? Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros, Example of a transitional u-shaped medium tone wood floor, brown floor and exposed beam open concept kitchen design in Austin with a farmhouse sink, shaker cabinets, white cabinets, quartz countertops, gray backsplash, stainless steel appliances, an island and white countertops. If he doesn't want to say "ok, I'm deducting the cost and finding someone willing do do what I, the client wants". IF he had a sound reason for placement ? I would do them myself, too. It is 100% personal preference. The new homeowner liked the wide planked wood floor and the color of the existing cabinetry, but the quality needed upgrading. Well, I live in Europe. Wood Floor: Stang-Lund Forde 5 walnut hard wax oil finish The backsplash to the vanity is the companion Bursa Beige mini running bond mosaic with a cap also in the Bursa Beige marble. I have been looking here on Houzz to verify if I am really 'wrong' for wanting the knob placement where I want it. It had been disturbing being disrespected in our own house. I'd calmly ask his reason, and I'd also consider if he was having a very bad day for any reason. I have heard many other people here on Houzz tell their own stories of having similar difficulties very much like we have had with finding a reputable & reliable contractor who wants work. Unless some reason not to, I do as this: Aligned at intersections .and if a pull, same thing for bottom of pull on uppers and top of pull on lower door. We just had our knobs installed. As my father always said being dead right doesnt really get you anywhere, you are still dead. of it being in our livingroom, I have to get used to it being where it's supposed to be again! I would say it mostly depends on the size and style of the hardware in terms of where it makes sense to put it. Where are your facts??? Relocating the refrigerator opened up the kitchen and added much-needed counter and storage space by the sink. How dare he behave the way he did?! And I agree that at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter that much. They look perfectly fine. Master bath extension, double sinks and custom white painted vanities, calacatta marble basketweave floor by Waterworks, polished nickel fittings, recessed panel woodworking, leaded glass window, white subway tile with glass mosaic accent, full glass shower walls. It is open to the living room and dining room. artsyphartsy_home_maker thanked saratogaswizzlestick, Artsy, don't worry, if you'd mentioned initially that this was your first time hiring a contractor you likely would have been attacked for being naive or not vetting people properly. You'll be looking at these knobs for many years to come. Thank you for your supportive & informative helpful commentary. Way to many times contractors think they know it all and forget that their role is to execute your and the Designer/Architect vision, one thing is to recommend and or advise on mechanical or structural matters for your safety and another one is to dictate details and or Design, color, etc. Eric Rorer Photography, Modern Kitchen with Charisma - Winfield, IL. The grace and timelessness of this sparkling new kitchen maintains the charm and character of a space that has seen generations past. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else. Several contractorsdidn't give a call back even before we ever spoke to them at all, or ever metwith them at all, some were no shows to initial first appointments before weever met them or spoke to them aside from giving them our name, number and address.And a couple of others gave broken promises to send an estimate after visitingwith us. This puts the homeowner in a very awkward position to have to directly address the people doing the work about any issues, or problems. Moving it up a couple of inches fixed my "problem.". The funniest one actually showed up on thewrong day for our appointment which was a red flag so we never consideredhim. NO the corners are not 'Mitered' which should help dissipate some confusion. It is easy to make a template. There are definitely people who choose to put hardware on the rail of their Shaker cabinets. So the project began with extending out an exterior wall to accommodate a larger island and more moving-around space between the island and the perimeter cabinetry. Photographer: Joe Nowak I am strong about which one I like, but am just curious what others opinions are also? It aint about aesthetics. Thank you so much for your very varied opinions! Eric Rorer Photography. lacquered handle luxury gray kitchen larger cabinet Style was important to the cook, who began collecting accessories and photos of the look she loved for months prior to the project design. 
If possible I would fire him/her. The way I see it, the one who owns the house {me & my hubby} and the one who pays the contractor {me & my hubby} should get to chose where hardware is placed! I make it a point to listen to opinions & advice as long as it is given respectfully, and treat other with respect. Drilling through the join creates a weakness. Sometimes you just cant have what you want. We ended up doing it his way and I don't even notice it anymore but I still do like the other way better. Most professional high end installations are the way your contractor wants to do it. The Panageries team began this project by completely gutting the kitchen and reworking the entire layout. Stove top: Bluestar RGTNB366B gas range top in stainless steel. With millions of inspiring photos from design professionals, you'll find just want you need to turn your house into your dream home. Management came to our house and asked us what had been going on. Overall, both look fine, kind of a non-issue. I know because those people discussed it with me, and identified with me in another thread. Hints of gray appear in the bead board detail peeking just behind glass doors, and in the application of the handsome floating wood shelves between cabinets. Our project manager hadn't been doing his job of over seeing & controlling the reno. Cut the guy some slack, or have at it and put them where you like them deduct the time and MOVE ON: ). Browse through the largest collection of home design ideas for every room in your home. Today moved the fridge back in to our kitchen, and after long 6 mos. You planned ahead about 1,000 choices and then #1,001 comes up and bites you in the butt. Are there any guidelines for where the cabinet knobs should be installed on the cabinet doors?Thanks! His vanity done in Crystal custom cabinetry and mirror surround with Crema marfil marble countertop and sconces by Hudson Valley: 4021-OB Menlo Park in Bronze finish. His vanity with custom cabinetry including reeded glass tall cabinet, marble counter, and glass knobs. Dura Supreme Cabinetry, Elegant l-shaped kitchen photo in Atlanta with a farmhouse sink, paneled appliances, raised-panel cabinets, white cabinets, marble countertops, white backsplash and subway tile backsplash. Thanks so much for your thoughtful comment & advice! She was drawn to the brightness of whites and grays, and the design accentuated this color palette brilliantly with the incorporation of a warm shade of brown woods that originated from a dining room table that was a family favorite. The project manager had usually been a 'no show, no call, no return call, no email' throughout the entire process with little contact, and wasn't 'managing' anything, least of all his contractor/carpenter run amuck. Or did you mean the contractor should apologize? Best of luck! Putting the knob at the intersection just didn't feel right. One can listen , agree, disagree, and a handyman with an accurate template and good drill and bits can have all of them on in two hours. The cabinets on the left side of the kitchen will function for storage and I can still take advantage of the counter space when entertaining. Thanks for the encouragement Lindsey, I will stick to my guns but I know he won't go down without a fight & I'm not looking forward to that. So this 'history' you speak of doesn't exist. To be honest I agree with the comment that once they are all in it will honestly make no difference in a very short time. Miele Steam convection over. Knobs are hard for the very young and very old to deal with. From day one he was barely involved which allowed the contractor have free reign attempting to walk all over me, cut corners and do a generally sloppy job. For lower cabinets, I tend to go higher where the pull seems within easy reach. Trim size matters, knob size matters. Eric Rorer Photography. 
This is a stick to your guns moment I think. Faucet is Jado 842/803/105 Hatteras widespread lavatory faucet, lever handles, old bronze. The place where I want to put the knobs is not on a 'seam' : One of our cabinets before it was installed: I'm happy to say that since I last posted here, the contractor/carpenter have since been removed from our reno job along with the project manager!! After reading the comments here, I see there are some things I need to clarify. For those that like the popular contrast between light and dark finishes, Storm Gray pairs beautifully with lighter painted and stained finishes. Typically they are placed 2.5 to 3 inches up from the bottom edge of the upper cabinets. An antique pair of French Doors can be seen on the left; were bought in France with the original cremone bolt. I have a contractor with a horrible attitude who had absolutely no patience today, when he wanted to install the mushroom knobs onto our upper & lower cabinet doors placed 'his way' 3 inches from the bottom of each of our upper cabinet doors, and 3 inches from the top of our lower cabinet doors. Note, I said unless some REASON. I had a contractor lose focus and he "bought" a new door for 350.00, my cabinet makers custom cost to re do the entire door as he is a perfectionist..and sadly on a brand new install to that $$$ level, so am I, and so too the client. Maybe it's cabinets flanking the fridge. help! If it's a slab style door (without mitered joints), go with what you want. That seems to be a fave of the crotchety (and clearly bored) locals, artsyphartsy_home_maker thanked Liz Lemon, artsyphartsy_home_maker thanked Paul Marks, Make your kitchen cabinets a joy to use with these ideas for depth, height and door style or no door at all, Hold on to more dough without sacrificing style with these cost-saving tips, Youll want to consider style, finish, the number of drill holes and more, Simple Shaker style opens itself to a wide range of knobs and pulls. I would not want to place a knob where two pieces of wood are joined in a 45 degree angle, but many cabinets are made with 90 degree joints and I don't think that a corner placement would pose the same problem with this design, but guidelines are written without considering which type of construction.I will say that if you have any lower cabinets that will need a center knob like the picture I am attaching, I would definitely want to place the knobs at the corners rather than have them lower on corner applications than center applications. Individually handcrafted knobs and pulls in vibrant dichroic art glass. After it was explained to me by the cabinet maker, the installer and my interior designer , I had mine installed as your contractor has recommended and I have a six figure kitchen which is being photo shot for a magazine. They look perfectly fine. The new carpenter is much better to deal with and does a thoughtful carful job with everything he touches. Oh --I didn't get back to the subject of door pulls {mushroom knobs}. Take a refresher course down memory lane on your past approach to contractors to see the source of the attitude. Chairs are gone. My husband and I have never hired a contractor before or had a renovation done, this is our very first time. Drawer Pulls on 36" wide drawers with two pulls/drawer: Here is a link that might be useful: Thread: where to place pulls on drawer fronts, centered or not? Suede quartz Silestone graces the countertops with a soft matte hint of color that contrasts nicely with the presence of white painted cabinetry finished smartly with the brightness of a milky white farm sink. Your so lucky your kitchen designer had a better attitude! This kitchen is part of a new log cabin built in the country outside of Nashville. Vaulted ceilings add to the dramatic feel of this bath. Faucet is Jado 842/803/105 Hatteras widespread lavatory faucet, lever handles, old bronze. You didn't think about in advance; you didn't even know there were options. A simple apology and refocus on the problem at hand should get this projects back on track. Kitchen design with Uneek Glass Fusions custom cabinet hardware in mosaic glass. Tile Backsplash: Here is a link to the exact tile and color: Her vanity is done in Crystal custom cabinetry and mirror surround with Crema marfil marble countertop and sconces by Hudson Valley: 4021-OB Menlo Park in Bronze finish. This kitchen is a perfect example of why appliance placement is so important. Photo below: Filler on top left is hanging too low: Side filler several inches too long and the first installers were insisting to leave it that way. Suede quartz Silestone graces the countertops with a soft matte hint of color that contrasts nicely with the presence of white painted cabinetry finished smartly with the brightness of a milky white farm sink. I would use painters tape on your cabinets where you want on some where he wants on others - then decide - I understand a contractor giving advise but in the end its your home and you are the customer. I searched Shaker cabinets and found either placement acceptable. See which is right for your own kitchen, Whether your decor is traditional, eclectic, rustic or offbeat, this cabinet hardware can show it off and take it into another realm, Maybe it's a walk-in. No joke, will ship them by Monday. The contractors that we work with usually want to put the knobs where you are suggesting, and we usually put them where Stacy has shown them. Ask him politely to drill and move on, or deduct the cost of a good handy man to do it for you. I prefer your way, but in any case your contractor works for you and he/she should follow your preference regardless. If he had/has a sound structural reason for the placement, explains it calmly, and you choose to ignore it ? Request a FREE Dura Supreme Brochure Packet: Glass mosaic cabinet handles by Uneek Glass Fusions. In the design stages many details were incorporated in this classic kitchen to give it dimension since the surround cabinets, counters and backsplash were white. This is such an easy thing to do it's not even funny. Custom sizes and screw placement. 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He stomped off one day - the rest of the crew told me they didn't want him back, as he created too many arguments with everyone, not just me, so I didn't make amends to get the job done. There is an old saying "Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior". Interior Design by Ashley Whittaker. Maybe it's that I've done a lot of woodworking in the interim, but for some reason my gut tells me the knob belongs up the stile a couple of inches on small doors, and higher if the door is tall. Our feelings are good riddance, don't let the door hit ya' on the way out! They will also be redoing our batched backsplash tile {was not on yet at the time this photo was taken}. --thank you to the person who offered to send me a template to install hardware myself, I appreciate the offer. The negative feeling of the reno had been palpable and now the negative dark cloud has been dissolved. If you are OK with no warranty on door separation, have him drill it through the join. So this proves to me I am not crazy & my way is a very common placement of knobs on cabinets. This Milwaukee, WI kitchen is the perfect example of Dura Supreme's recent launch of gray paint finishes, it has been interesting to see these new cabinetry colors suddenly flowing across our manufacturing floor, destined for homes around the country. Kitchen still has a way to go yet before it will be completed though. And the contractor wants an answer RIGHT NOW about a lot of it. It looks almost like a happy medium between yours and your contractor's ideas. I went down this road and researched why its done that way. The OP has a history of being less than professional or realistic with contractors. That being said here is a brief description of our own experience. Custom sizes and screw placement. A beautiful, clean, cool, classic, white Master Bath. cabinet placement kitchen hardware handles cabinets knobs knob shaker pulls install The manager said he was very, sorry and immediately pulled both the contractor/carpenter and project manager from our job. There are definitely people who choose to put hardware on the rail of their Shaker cabinets. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Hopefully your contractor will have a better attitude next time. Should I be upset?/. He obviously doesn't want to do it, so why should he get paid? That does look odd. 3 years of running off contractors on the front end before they ever got s deposit counts as past poor interactions with contractors. Classic gray and white cabinetry from Dura Supreme hits the mark creating a perfect balance between bright and subdued. It is open to the living room and dining room. If that's the case, you need to move the knob away from the mitered joint. Although I understand what people are saying about drilling through a mitered corner, it has never been my experience that that caused any problems (with weakness or otherwise). 
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